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by Oldboy22
Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Meccarroll If you follow my previous advices and work the new vertical surfaces first it’s easier to hold in the vice, two parallel surfaces to grip. If you then cut a piece of paper or thin card the thickness of the rail and long enough, you can lay it on the vertical surfaces lining up with the ne...
by Oldboy22
Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:44 pm
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

Sorry bud I didn’t mean to offend, I’ll keep out of it.
by Oldboy22
Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:40 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Meccarroll

How’s it going ? Had a chance to have a go at it yet, I’m looking forward to seeing it .
Hope you took/ take some stage photos.
by Oldboy22
Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:34 pm
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

Easing looks to long and a bit out.
by Oldboy22
Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:33 pm
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

Looking much better, sides should be plumb.
by Oldboy22
Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:46 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

How about something like this , different variations around. I would always clean up with a nice sharp block plane or spoke shave.
by Oldboy22
Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:04 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

And count your fingers after, be careful
by Oldboy22
Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:01 pm
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

Are you starting to believe?
by Oldboy22
Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:30 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

It’s gone quite on here, :D I’m hoping to see some wreaths soon.
by Oldboy22
Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Thinking on it I’ve made a cockup you should add a straight bit to both ends and reduce the easing by that amount , I don’t know why I drew it like that but I did. You don’t put a straight bit where one twist joins another twist ,but of course the easing isn’t twisted . :oops: Revised drawing showi...
by Oldboy22
Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:53 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Anyone else had a try at the drawing ? The unequal pitch layout or the single twist posted earlier.
We would like to see them. It’s better than watching tv :D .
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:19 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Looking good, can’t wait to see it.
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Thinking on it I’ve made a cockup you should add a straight bit to both ends and reduce the easing by that amount , I don’t know why I drew it like that but I did. You don’t put a straight bit where one twist joins another twist ,but of course the easing isn’t twisted . :oops:
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Thank you for the reply. In your drawing you have this circle... thr query 2.png Reading in the various books, I came to the conclusion that that line defined the point at which the twist changed from one direction to the other. Zero twist and as such was a good 'reference' point to help with the c...
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:08 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

The red arrow has nothing to do with it. Cut the wreath on the bandsaw to the shape of the wreath cut 10mm outside the line for now ,slide the two templates to the new tangent positions top and bottom draw around the templates in the new position (as determined by the twist bevel) these lines should...
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:49 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Here’s a different technique to draw the ellipse, this is what I used to work out the handrail in my staircase (first page), I didn’t really understand it at the time but it worked, I didn’t have as many books or as much knowledge back then. That seems to follows the same method used by Mowat Fig. ...
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:25 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

You need to transfer that paper template for two pieces of ply or thin mdf, hardboard.and follow this picture
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:31 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Here’s a different technique to draw the ellipse, this is what I used to work out the handrail in my staircase (first page), I didn’t really understand it at the time but it worked, I didn’t have as many books or as much knowledge back then.
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:20 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

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(4) The radious point is on a riser which seems to be the point which most authors use so it just seemed logical to follow.

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My theory why they do this (for what it’s worth) is for positioning for assembly, nice to have a reference point to work to.

Any ideas as to why?
by Oldboy22
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:41 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

I also asked some way back about how one decided in which direction the bevel line should go as the drawing only provides the bevel angle...not the direction (as in 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock OR 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock). I was getting very confused as, looking at various examples in books and online, i...
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:55 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Meccarroll Don’t read this until tomorrow, as you’ve had a couple of bevies I can’t see anything wrong the points P Q they are different and should be, the way you developed them is fine. What I said previously about the minor axis may be wrong Apologies for that, what confused me was the rectangle,...
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:41 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Meccarroll wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:35 pm
Question: Why do you suppose the minor axis is not correctly positioned?
We will talk tomorrow
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

On closer look I think I notice you don’t have the minor axis point correct, if the rectangle is supposed to be the centre line of the ellipse the radius used should be to the centre line of the ellipse, if so that makes your spring lines out.
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Afraid I can't help you there, Mark, as I'm a SketchUp user. On the subject of graphics packages, what do use on your iPad when using your package, OldBoy? Do use a stylus (if such a beast exists ?) I'm havig difficulty visualising how one could use a touch screen for this. Just a finger everything...
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:18 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

This is where I am at at the moment. I am having a bit of trouble forming the ellipse with my CAD software (TurboCad 4 for Mac). Because the ellipse is on an angle and the programme does not seem to like working other than horizontal or vertical. I have used it in the past to perform ellipses for w...
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:06 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Meccarroll wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:51 am
Oldboy22 wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:36 am
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The drawing for Rodgers stairs should come out similar to mine if you follow the same dimensions depending on you development process.

When it's finished I'll put it on here if you don't mind?

Definitely, I can’t wait to see it.
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:36 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

If those first practice pieces were made 35 - 40 years ago and you made the set of stairs 15 years ago you have spent a long time learning tangent hand-railing. What was the material used to form the curve for the strings? I see a lot of this work done in ply then covered with veneer but some use s...
by Oldboy22
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:32 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

If those first practice pieces were made 35 - 40 years ago and you made the set of stairs 15 years ago you have spent a long time learning tangent hand-railing. What was the material used to form the curve for the strings? I see a lot of this work done in ply then covered with veneer but some use s...
by Oldboy22
Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Special treat now lol, found this in the back of the garage, it must be 35-40 years old I thought it had long gone in the wood stove, and maybe it should have lol. It’s the first practice piece I ever made ,single twist single bevel, I’ve shown it both ways to prove it can be used from level to rake...
by Oldboy22
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:29 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

woodsmith wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:46 am
I’ve found it really interesting despite not following what’s going on.
Thanks, don’t be worried about asking something if you don’t understand.
by Oldboy22
Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Here’s a good example of level to rake and rake to level handrails, the geometry to develop this is above. The same geometry can be used to get level to rake portion of the scroll. Also a few pages from the book “A comprehensive practical geometry for builders” by A B Emary. Showing a different meth...
by Oldboy22
Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:53 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

That's a nice start but maybe a new thread? It may be difficult for people to visualise what you are conveying without a wreath section. Without adding a typical application for the drawing it may be difficult to visualise the relevance of such work. Which book are you working from Oldboy22, and ca...
by Oldboy22
Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:42 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

MJ80 wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:05 pm
I've been finding this really interesting to follow along
Thanks feel free to add to the conversation or perhaps a drawing.
by Oldboy22
Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:46 am
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

Most people spend years learning this stuff and Rodger has come an awful long way (with your help) in a very short space of time, I hope he does not throw in the towel right now. Your right he has come a long way and I have acknowledged that at times, and it is very difficult stuff. But he’s not le...
by Oldboy22
Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:08 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Anyone interested in learning about tangent handrails should start with a single twist single bevel rail. Interesting points to note the direction of the ordinate, and how the ellipse width changes with the development of the handrail width from the plan. The ellipse minor and major axis are at 90de...
by Oldboy22
Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:12 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Anyone got anything to share about tangent handrails or questions to ask .
If not this thread is going to go the way of the dodo.
by Oldboy22
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:56 am
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

You have managed to create a very interesting thread here Rodger. I am totally hooked! It’s going to keep you entertained a long time if it carries on like this. Most people spend years learning this stuff and Rodger has come an awful long way (with your help) in a very short space of time, I hope ...
by Oldboy22
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:13 am
Forum: Woodworking
Topic: Staircase upgrade
Replies: 104
Views: 3871

Re: Staircase upgrade

Meccarroll wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:49 am


You have managed to create a very interesting thread here Rodger. I am totally hooked!
It’s going to keep you entertained a long time if it carries on like this.
by Oldboy22
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:31 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

Sorry bud I can’t do keep doing this either follow the instructions, or do it your own way
by Oldboy22
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:01 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Past project
Replies: 305
Views: 4245

Re: Past project

thatsnotafestool wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:49 pm
I thought that was what you meant. The amount of twist is dictated by the bevels at either end..yes ?
Of course 😳