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Here’s the last of the obtuse plan drawings this one has a lower level tangent, the drawing above is an upper level tangent plan, the equal pitch obtuse plan is on the previous page. You will notice all drawings need a different approach.

Brian.

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Forgot to point out there is a different way of getting the upper bevel shown in the previous drawing, in case anyone didn’t notice.
Brian

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Version two or my version I say mine because I haven’t seen it anywhere else, and came up with it on my own. Now I’m not say this will work in all situations because I don’t know. If not self explanatory please ask.

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How to get the major axis for the above drawing, version one copied from “SBE Builders” website. Or put it another way learned from that website.

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The views on this thread continue to rise, so because there is so much interest I thought I’d post a question on this drawing to see if anyone would like to offer a solution. How did I get the length of the major axis of the ellipse?. Ellipse in green. Like I’ve said before I am not a master of this...

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Hi Darren
I’ve only just noticed your post, if you’re still around why don’t you show some pictures or drawings of your work, I for one would be interested.

Brian

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Mark
Looks good to me I can’t see the bevels but I guess they are on a different layer, it’s more or less how I do it.
Brian

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Looks good to me so far, it would be nice if you could post your final drawing if you still have it.

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Hi Brian, one problem I had following your examples of tangent handrailing was because you use different geometrical methods to achieve the same tangent handrail pattern as me. I use several books on the subject but could not find an example that matched the way you had worked. If you worked from a ...

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Hi guys thanks for the interest out of the country at the moment and three parts p@*ts pi£&@d but revisit this thread when I can read it properly, about a week

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You need to try to go round the stair landing level , that probably means cutting a small piece of the top and putting it on the bottom, but then your panels at the top and bottom need altering ,otherwise your going to have trouble. I’ve enclosed a drawing to show how mouldings change as they go fro...

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This was a good post although I did not understand your drawing method. I'm not sure I'd want to learn it either as the one I used worked just fine. Maybe in the near future we could revive the subject in a new thread. No problem I’m not asking anyone to learn my method but at nearly 50,000 view’s ...

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To anyone following this , another way of drawing the last method and maybe understand it better is to draw the radius in the plan (in red) and the length of the purple and orange lines from the same centre , and draw a line tangential to the radius in the plan hence given the required bevel.
Brian

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This method is the best and most accurate in my opinion, the end where you develop the twist bevel is the end it applies to, strike an arc from “a” to the developed tangents in blue ( ie at 90 deg to the tangents) as shown, from there draw a line at a tangent to the plan radius copied from the plan ...

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Lower bevel 2 Draw horizontal and vertical lines 1-2-b above the upper inclined tangent ( in purple) extend the lower undeveloped inclined tangent up as shown dashed purple line. Draw a radius from 2 to just kiss the line as shown. Transfer this radius to B and strike arc to base line draw line to p...

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Hi Lower bevel twist angle. Strike an arc from B to F on the lower undeveloped tangent ( ie at 90deg to the tangent) all in purple and rotate to G, draw a line from G to X . The angle needed is 66 deg as shown in purple. I hope you agree nothing complicated about that, talking about myself trying to...

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This was a good post although I did not understand your drawing method. I'm not sure I'd want to learn it either as the one I used worked just fine. Maybe in the near future we could revive the subject in a new thread. No problem I’m not asking anyone to learn my method but at nearly 50,000 view’s ...

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First bevel and probably the easiest. Strike an arc from B to just kiss the inclined tangent at C ( it should be at 90 deg to the extended inclined tangent) and rotate to the base line at D, draw a line from D to P , and you can measure the angle as shown in orange. This angle would be used (60.2deg...

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I’ve decided to post a few drawings on how to obtain bevels for tangent handrails, they can be difficult and easy to get wrong, I’m going to use one drawing with the same dimensions, each method used should result in the same bevels, therefore proving they are correct. It would be nice if someone co...

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Another OMG handrail video, just show’s with enough filler and sawdust you can achieve anything .

https://youtu.be/bwGiYDzWSUI

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Hi all, a lot of people are still checking into this thread and I wanted to correct one of my drawings posted on the 25 November 2021, one of the bevels is wrong because I snapped to a nearby line instead of the inclined tangent. I’ve corrected it now and included some other methods of obtaining the...

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Awesome stuff from Custom Handrails , part two.

https://youtu.be/-xYY8f4vxEI

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Here’s Custom Handrail’s latest tangent handrail video this time he uses the ordinate method to get his template, it takes a couple of watches to get the idea or at least it did for me .

https://youtu.be/AitqOk_-Xg8

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Ungrateful bar steward despite a request to leave I’m going nowhere, anyone who wants to talk tangent handrails feel free to post.

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Correct a fool and he’ll hate you
Correct a genius and he’ll thank you.

And you are definitely are a fool.

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I’ve got some spare time on my hands so going to get controversial again. Regarding the staircase upgrade post. He had some very good advice from plenty of posters and of course myself, he chose to ignore most of it. I feel I have a right to my opinion after spending hours and days walking him throu...

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Definitely better than with the newels, let’s hope more people give it a try.

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After re-watching his video I dispute his bevel method although not wrong in development he is taking the co-angle and must be using it from a vertical edge, normally angles are applied from the horizontal (top) (bottom) surface. God I’ve learned a lot over the years to notice things like that :D , ...

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Here’s the latest video in” custom handrails “ journey into tangent hand-railing, his method uses a lot of the same steps as I do but as you will see it’s still very hard to follow , his method of getting the bevels is what I refer to as the Mowatt method and has not been discussed on this thread, a...

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I know I said I probably wouldn’t post again but this is something everyone who’s interested in this type of work even if you can’t understand it, will find interesting. No geometry. I came across these videos by custom Handrails and I found it very interesting. https://youtu.be/FuFFzv2w4Kw I starte...

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This is probably last post on this thread, I will help anyone who posts in the future if I can but I’m not an expert and do make mistakes, my previous drawing was slightly wrong I noticed, so wanted to put a corrected drawing up.
Brian

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Okay the lack of interest is deafening lol , but thanks to Keith and trevanion for there contribution. I agree the post in question is muddled and not structured ,I only joined the forum to help someone but I didn’t know anything of his personality or capabilities, and that didn’t go how I planned, ...

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Thanks for your replies, I will leave it to the weekend in case there are anymore votes or comments. I’ll then make a more in depth response.

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Trying to get some feedback anonymously, please vote.

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