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Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:12 am

Has anyone got any plans for one of the old style joiners tool box ? You know , the type that has the saw in the top and draws etc .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:25 am

I've got the actual original box which we all did as a 'Tops' course project, but haven't got a drawing. Could do a sketch if that's help. It's quite a practical box.
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:27 am

That would be very handy thanks . Ive just done a week on site and got more and more annoyed by not being able to find tools or realise i had forgotten them and left them in the workshop . I have the tool tote style box i made as an apprentice and its perfect for site work but not for going to and from the workshop and site .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby sainty » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:48 am

I use a couple of systainers.
Thisone -
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for chisels, screwdrivers, measuring/marking stuff, and all the little bits that get usually lost.

Then I have this one on top -
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to carry the other gear - planes, hammers, big screwdrivers etc

Works really well, you can even get one of the wheely boards to move it around. Seems expensive but I bet the cost in time of making one is a lot more!
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:53 am

Ive tried one of those plastic rolling workshops before and found it to be a pain in the bottom . I want to make one that will fit "my" tools .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby sainty » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:12 am

A place for everything and everything in it's place kind of thing?

You could always make something like this -

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:00 am

Nice idea but i really want to give the trad box a go as it is probably perfect . If i recall the ones i have seen they are about 900mm long and about 600mm high and fold out to give a free standing cabinet with access to all the tools . Some had lift out trays and some had draws . Some had both 8-) Must admit i never saw anyone carry one with out going red in the face :lol:


A few pics and rough dimentions would be handy if you could Jacob ?

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby colincott » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:04 am

I have a few to if you want some pics and sizes, they might be a little different to Jacob's :)
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:06 am

Please Colin . All ideas will be handy :)
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:11 am

Heres the box. You get the same idea with variations all over the place. Suitcase style very convenient to carry in one hand or one in each, and takes up least floor space when you are scrabbling about in somebodies kitchen. With lid down it acts as a tray and you can lob your tools in to keep them from spreading about.
Size based on what you want to carry.
Length and height depend first on biggest objects inside - saws, so you'd lay them out and draw around them on the ply for the front.
Width based on plane and oilstone side by side.
Height of tray on height of marking gauge (or whatever biggest thing inside)
Make whole box with front (split along the hinge joint) and back. Then cut the lid off. Dovetails must be BOX dts i.e. wide and equal sized pins and tails. Drawer dts too fragile. Lid cuts through an oversize dt to leave equal pins either side.


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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:18 am

Thanks Jacob , i like the detail at the bottom where it curves away allowing for a bigger tray . I wouldnt of thought of that .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:51 am

jfc wrote:Thanks Jacob , i like the detail at the bottom where it curves away allowing for a bigger tray . I wouldnt of thought of that .

Actually it split there which is why there is an angle iron on the outside, but the curve would make it a bit stronger.
The tray doesn't go right in - it sticks out a bit when the lid is closed, to form a lip inside the lid edges.
Weight is kept in the bottom - plane, hammers, brace, axe, etc to make it more stable.
It's well thought out IMHO. We all had to make one and you didn't get your own tools until you had produced a good box. At the time (1982) it would have been the most difficult thing I'd ever made. :shock:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:31 pm

We never made one of those . I made my tote on site , probably so i didnt get in the carpenters way :? I remeber we made miniture doors and staircases . Oh and roofs . It was quite a sight walking into the workshop and seeing all the little roofs on the work benches . Like a construction site for little people :lol:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:14 pm

We did a full size roof, inside, but on a little brick building about the size of a bathroom. You did it in pairs and if you were first in the cycle you got very long rafters and made very steep pitch like a fairy castle. Next pair pulled it down, cut off all the birdsmouths and bevels and started again with a less steep pitch, and so on until it was nearly flat.
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:39 pm

Well i made a start today as i need this to be working pretty soon . No time for joints as this is a tool box for me so glued and screwed . I had 1/2 a sheet of 15mm birch ply so i got on with it .


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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby Brad Naylor » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:25 pm

There's some nice ones here;

http://www.gerstnerusa.com/
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:43 pm

jfc wrote:Well i made a start today as i need this to be working pretty soon . No time for joints as this is a tool box for me so glued and screwed . I had 1/2 a sheet of 15mm birch ply so i got on with it .


Kinnell, that was quick :shock:
Mine took a week AFAIR.
Those saws look a bit rusty IMHO :lol: :lol:

An alternative to a tray could be shelves but tilted back so stuff doesn't roll out.

Are you going to paint it? You can't go out with it like that. :roll:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:39 pm

We dont mess about in Laaaaaaandan tan :lol: Its a tool box and is going to get bashed about big time . I think i will add a few bits that i found helpfull with the last tool box .
I can see the lid that holds the saws getting broken so a battern to support it will help that and also act as a thingy ( you know that thingy that hooks over the work bench to support the timber your cutting )
I like the shelf idea as making boxes is a pain in the ar*e for this type of thing but i have made it big enough to be able to sort the tools into racks . I just need to have a good think about what is needed on site and the workshop to find out what i want it to do .


Bench hook , thats the thingy :lol:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:43 pm

To support the lid even more i think batterns down the sides would be good and cut away a wedge shape so you have a couple of door chocks :shock: I'm on fire tonight :lol:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby engineerone » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:45 pm

i wish i was able and skilled enough to work as quickly as you do jase looks good too. however the bottom section looks a little shallow compared to jacob's one. or are you going to shelve it there too?

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:12 pm

Not sure yet . I may up end it and shelf / draw it that way . I need to get the main tools in and see where i want them .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:25 pm

Well i had to get it ready for site tomorrow so here is as far as i got .


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I poked some shavings from the spindle moulder into the pocket that holds the chisels so they are not sitting on the cutting edge and a little block under the plane .
I think i'm going to fit another shelf but i will work with it for a bit and let that dictate what i need .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby engineerone » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:15 pm

bloody hell,you are getting slower :lol:

i guess we need to mark the day in the calender since it is unlikely we will ever see it that tidy again :roll:

nice one mate

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby cncpaul » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:18 pm

Jason,

Where's the handle ?
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby promhandicam » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:22 pm

Those Hiltis get around a bit don't they :o

Now all you have to do is make another box about the same size to hold a camping chair, kettle, milk, teabags and sarnies. Perhaps it can be like a decorators pasting table with legs that fold out :lol:

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby engineerone » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:42 pm

no steve, he's going to wear that one, be rather like a sandwich board man, or a one man band, with bits hanging off him :lol:

no you are being picky expecting him to remember the handle :lol:

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby jfc » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:36 pm

What do i need a handle for , its RC from my mobile phone 8-)

:lol: Bit of black rope from the boat was fitted after the pics .
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby engineerone » Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:30 pm

well if it doesn't work as a tool box, it will make a good boat anchor :lol:

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby gazza » Tue May 05, 2009 6:20 pm

Oh Err Must have missed this one,

Heres mine,
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Handle is knackered though, might replace it with some Rope :lol:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Tue May 05, 2009 7:48 pm

Snap!
Were you confined in the same institution Gazza? (local 'Skill-centre" run like an open prison doing fast-track C&G)
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby gazza » Tue May 05, 2009 9:41 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yea Jacob, the good old days, " Government Training Centre " :lol: :lol:

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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby modernist » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:16 pm

Some things are the same the world over.

this was made a at gov training school in the states

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Maybe there is some ultimate controller out there :roll: :lol:
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Re: Joiners tool box .

Postby mrgrimsdale » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:37 pm

modernist wrote:Some things are the same the world over.

this was made a at gov training school in the states

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Maybe there is some ultimate controller out there :roll: :lol:

They've slipped up on the dovetail :roll:
At the lid join you make an extra wide DT so that when you saw the lid off it halves it and leaves a half pin either side , to match the others. We would have lost marks!
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