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My latest work...

Postby riley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:13 pm

As some of you may know, I not only make kitchens and stuff, but also tools.
I recently had a customer ask for some Drawbore Pins, so made these

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London pattern-esque Bubinga handles, stainless steel furrules and hardened silver steel pins.

Thanks for looking.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby Mr Ed » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:24 pm

Nicely made Adam. How much a pair are you charging out of interest?

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Thanks Ed. The 3/8" ( Bubinga) are £46 per pair. Other timbers are available...

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Re: My latest work...

Postby tusses » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:26 pm

Nice work, and nice photography :)

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:27 pm

tusses wrote:Nice work, and nice photography :)

Thanks.
They were taken on a workmate outside the 'shop.
A few of the shots had a horse eyeing up the camera from afar :shock:
The B+W were inspired by Ed.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby paulchapman » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:37 pm

Lovely work, Adam.

Cheers ;)

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Re: My latest work...

Postby Doug » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:37 pm

riley wrote:The B+W were inspired by Ed.



He`s such an inspiration

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Re: My latest work...

Postby Mr Ed » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:39 pm

riley wrote:The B+W were inspired by Ed.


Nice to know I've made some small contribution :lol:

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Re: My latest work...

Postby andrewking » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:12 pm

Nice! Love the third pic especially!

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:18 pm

Thanks Andy.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby jake » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:28 pm

They are pretty. Did you turn them (the tapers) off center?

The trad ones in my tool chest are all iron/steel and are very mangled at the ends nonetheless. Yours look far too pretty for such abuse but are no doubt destined for more delicate work.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:38 pm

jake wrote:They are pretty. Did you turn them (the tapers) off center?

The trad ones in my tool chest are all iron/steel and are very mangled at the ends nonetheless. Yours look far too pretty for such abuse but are no doubt destined for more delicate work.


The tapers are turned (on my lathe) by swivelling the headstock and offsetting the tailstock. I have an old (WW2 era) Barker lathe which has this unusual feature (the swivelling headstock).
I must get around to building myself a taper turning attachment as it's a faff to accurately line up the centres again using a Dti.

At 9.5mm, these are more for furniture sized joints rather than framing joints. I will be making some 1/4" and 1/2" ones too.

Thanks for the interest.

Adam.
P.S. How are you getting on with your lathe?

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Re: My latest work...

Postby jake » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:43 pm

Ah right - are they plain tapers then? I was trying to work out how you would get to the one-sided taper on the trad ones. Spinney things not my forte!

Still renovating the lathe, got it all stripped down, now putting it back together between other stuff. The seller must have thought it was his lucky day - none of the speed changes worked, the feed screw nuts were so clogged with swarf that they didn't work, etc. But all nothing a very good clean couldn't sort out, so I'm pleased enough. Just have to buy expensive tools and work out how to use it next.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby mark270981 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:58 pm

Very nicely done, great photos too.
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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:58 pm

Yeah, they're plain tapers.
I've used both plain and eccentric in the past and to be honest, I find the eccentricity unnecessary.
As Jacob (I think) said in another thread somewhere (maybe on UKW), you could make these by filing a taper on any old piece of steel. I like to make things nice though ;) :roll:

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Re: My latest work...

Postby jake » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:02 pm

That's fair enough - you have definitely achieved that objective!

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Postby jonnyd » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:17 am

Nice work Adam

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Re: My latest work...

Postby woodsmith » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:58 am

Those are really nice, too nice to use! £46 per pair, that seems cheap, how long did they take you to make?
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Re: My latest work...

Postby andrewking » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:11 am

riley wrote:Yeah, they're plain tapers.
I've used both plain and eccentric in the past and to be honest, I find the eccentricity unnecessary.
Adam


Hi Adam,

There is a case for offset/eccentric pins in some instances, normally on a deep component such as a newel in the situation where the offset hole in the tenon is a tad too close to the shoulder and difficult to pick up.
A standard taper pin often has to be angled to engage it and can crush and deform the hole so that the round dowel is in an oval hole.
No problem on painted work as a bit of filler will sort, but on polished stuff it will stand out.
An eccentric pin will pick up the hole easier without having to tilt it and crush the wall of the dowel hole as the stright side can slide down the wall of the dowel hole and pick up the tenon, leaving a neater finish.
At least, that's how I was shown at college anyway! ;)
On thinner components there's maybe no necessity for eccentric pins but they are out there second hand if you can find them, the college had a few sets of lovely old boxwood handled ones - Marples as I recall. They recommended them over standard taper pins for that reason if you felt the need to own any, although even then they were a specialist tool for most people's kit; a couple of joinery shops I worked in had their own pins, as did a couple of the older joiners working there, but they were usually the ones who specialised in more complex stairs and went out on site fitting them.
Cost wise, I think I remember seeing them sold at around £20-25 per pair back in 1977, so yours are dirt cheap!!!
Edit: Forgot to add, the offset taper allows you to twist the pin once it engages and tighten the joint; maybe a couple of taps to nip it, then twist it back to release the pressure when needed. As I recall, the pins we used pretty big handles, I guess to give good purchase for twisting.
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Postby modernist » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:51 am

Beautifully made. Top work.
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Re: My latest work...

Postby PeterH » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:41 pm

Mmm... nice work. I like the B&W shot. Who supplies your corrugated maple? ;)

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Re: My latest work...

Postby mattty » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:56 pm

Lovely work Adam, they are something i have never used.

PeterH wrote:Who supplies your corrugated maple? ;)


That is straight off Tims new Planer! :lol:
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Re: My latest work...

Postby siafins » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:48 pm

Lovely work Adam, pretty good at photography as well!

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:37 pm

PeterH wrote:Mmm... nice work. I like the B&W shot. Who supplies your corrugated maple? ;)


I'd like to say something really arty like I tried the shot with flat maple but the shadows lacked punch, so I went and rippled it a bit. But that's not true.
I simply picked up the top sheet of veneer and went outside for a quick shot.

Andy, thanks for the extra information. At 3/8" I cant see these being used on anything needing anywhere near as much force as pulling a newel post joint would need, hence the simpler (and FAR easier to machine) plain taper.
Might have a go at an eccentric taper for some 1/2" ones.

As for the price, I don't expect I can command a premium like Ray Iles or Lie Nielsen (yet!), especially as many of the tools I make at the moment wouldn't form part of a 'basic' toolkit.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:52 pm

I forgot to say the handles are waxed and buffed.

Thanks.

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Re: My latest work...

Postby tusses » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:14 pm

riley wrote:I forgot to say the handles are waxed and buffed.

Thanks.

Adam.


And there's me wondering what lens and f-stop ?

:D

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Re: My latest work...

Postby riley » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:18 am

Just had my first order from America.
I've gone international!

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