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Maple Office Suite

Postby Pinch » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:18 pm

Hi All,

Here's one of those rare commissions.

It's for an existing client and they want an elegant desk and chair for their home study with a separate filing cabinet in a light wood. After the briefing and a few sketches later, they're going with this... although the chair isn't 100% yet.

The work will be maple, bird's eye maple and ebony.

Desk - front elevation
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Desk - Isometric detail
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Upholstered chair.
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Filing cabinet.
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I just have the workshop drawings to prepare and then it will be full steam ahead to order the timber & veneers.

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Postby tusses » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:20 pm

I'm looking forward to this one :)

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Postby promhandicam » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:31 pm

me too.

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Postby nickw » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:52 pm

Blimey, that's going to be impressive.
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Postby mailee » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:53 pm

Oh yes, get them pics up for us all. I am looking forward to this one. :D

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Postby ftacarpentry » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:05 pm

even the drawings are impressive... mad skills!

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Postby mcluma » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:46 am

any hidden drawers or gadgets in the desk??

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Postby Pinch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:02 am

Thanks guys! I can't wait to start. I could hardly sleep last night as my head is too excited :shock:

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Postby Pinch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:04 am

mcluma wrote:any hidden drawers or gadgets in the desk??


Not at the moment. I did ask the clients about this and they said "no" :cry:

This could change though 8-)

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Postby Pinch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:05 am

Advice needed please... :?

It's been a while since I cut cabriole legs and back then, I cut them by hand using a bow saw :shock: I'm now going to bring a tiny bit of my shop into the 21st century and I'm looking to buy a bandsaw. I'm not that experienced with machinery and as there are so many different saws on the market (browsed for two hours last night), my head now hurts :?

The saw needs to be small'ish and capable of accurately cutting 80, 100, & 120mm maple.

Any pointers will be much appreciated. 8-)

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Postby nickw » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:09 am

Most importantly, whatever you buy, throw away the blade that comes with it and fit a decent one.

I reckon that you can't go far wrong with a Record bandsaw. I have two of them!
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Postby Roger-M » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:31 pm

mailee wrote:Oh yes, get them pics up for us all. I am looking forward to this one. :D


+1 .... and let's have a proper WIP with loads of photos and "how to's" - not just the finished article please!
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Postby Roger-M » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:34 pm

nickw wrote:Most importantly, whatever you buy, throw away the blade that comes with it and fit a decent one.

I reckon that you can't go far wrong with a Record bandsaw. I have two of them!



... or if you have the space for something freestanding, a startrite 352 with tuffsaws blades.
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Re: Maple Office Suite

Postby Pinch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:46 pm

nickw wrote:Most importantly, whatever you buy, throw away the blade that comes with it and fit a decent one.

I reckon that you can't go far wrong with a Record bandsaw. I have two of them!


Thanks Nick. I was looking at the Record brand last night and stumbled across the BS250 on a stand 20 miles from me in excellent condition and with six sets of various blades. The owner bought it from new three years ago for his wood turning hobby. I bought it this afternoon for £50 - great result. I know it's quite small but it should do the job. I'll buy some new blades very soon. Even if it's too small, I'm sure I could get my money back quite easily.

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Postby Pinch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:46 pm

Roger-M wrote:
mailee wrote:Oh yes, get them pics up for us all. I am looking forward to this one. :D


+1 .... and let's have a proper WIP with loads of photos and "how to's" - not just the finished article please!


Thanks Roger - will do 8-)

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Postby Pinch » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:50 pm

Roger-M wrote:
nickw wrote:Most importantly, whatever you buy, throw away the blade that comes with it and fit a decent one.

I reckon that you can't go far wrong with a Record bandsaw. I have two of them!



... or if you have the space for something freestanding, a startrite 352 with tuffsaws blades.


I was also looking at Startrite last night but these are out of my budget at the moment so (as mentioned above to Nick just now) I've bought a used Record for £50 this afternoon. I'll post a pic on here tomorrow. 8-)

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Postby Roger-M » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:38 pm

At £50 you've stolen it! Still put decent blade on it though. It will be transformed. Have a word with Ian at Tuffsaws for some great advice as well as a first class product.
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Re: Maple Office Suite

Postby Caleb37 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:39 am

Beautiful design, I really can't wait to see the final thing. The drawings are impressive, I must say

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Postby Pinch » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:26 pm

Caleb37 wrote:Beautiful design, I really can't wait to see the final thing. The drawings are impressive, I must say


Thanks Caleb37 - much appreciated 8-)

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Postby Pinch » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:29 pm

Here's the Record bandsaw I bought on Wednesday - £50.

It took a couple of hours to assemble and set up and all works well. I've also ordered some new blades from Tuffs.

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Postby Pinch » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:36 pm

This afternoon, I've prepared some full size drawing details for the desk. The leg detail will also be the actual template.

I'm ordering the timber etc on Monday and hope to start very soon.

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Postby Pinch » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:00 pm

I've spent a bit of time on the band saw this afternoon in preparation of starting this project. I've extended the table using MDF and oak. It now feel much more stable when feeding longer & larger pieces of timber.

Here's the newly extended table off as I'm about to change the blade - it took 1 minute to remove.
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Here's the underside of the table.
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And the top side...
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I had to form a shallow rebate because the saw's table is 21mm and the MDF is 19mm. I used the existing wing nut bolts into the existing threaded holes.
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And now the new blade is in the machine and new extended table in place ready for work.
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Here's what's going on underneath...
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Place for the allen key and spanner.
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And tucked away when not in use.
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Sorted 8-)

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Re: Maple Office Suite

Postby George Fisher » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:50 pm

Nice drawings.

I'm glad it's not just me that draws by hand still.

One comment, the front leg of the chair looks slightly heavy compared to the desk which is more elegant to my eye. Or perhaps the curve is more pronounced as it's so much shorter than the desk leg.

Or it might just be me. Either way, nice job.

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Postby alex » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:34 pm

I like it and am in awe of your skills Pinch. The only thing I can add is the band saw extension table should be on the out feed side. If you need support on the in feed side use an adjustable prop/roller behind you.

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Postby Pinch » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:10 am

George Fisher wrote:Nice drawings.

I'm glad it's not just me that draws by hand still.

One comment, the front leg of the chair looks slightly heavy compared to the desk which is more elegant to my eye. Or perhaps the curve is more pronounced as it's so much shorter than the desk leg.

Or it might just be me. Either way, nice job.


Thanks George. I also find drawing much more therapeutic and I would never be converted to CAD. Good point about the chair leg compared to the desk leg. I did slightly change the desk leg in the template, giving the under shoulder more of a gentle sweep like the chair leg. But as you write, I think the difference in length gives a different appearance. Plus, the chair was more of an outline at this stage, which might change on the template - subject to the client of course.

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Postby Pinch » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:19 am

alex wrote:I like it and am in awe of your skills Pinch. The only thing I can add is the band saw extension table should be on the out feed side. If you need support on the in feed side use an adjustable prop/roller behind you.


Cheers Alex. I did think about extending the out-feed and I might still do this, but I'm glad I've extended the in-feed as it makes a vast improvement to handling an 800mm length of timber. I could always use the roller on the out feed, but my plan was to cut half the length of work and then turn it round to cut the other half.

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Postby Pinch » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:28 pm

Update:

I'm still waiting on the maple :|

But today, I had a couple of hours to spare late this afternoon and as I haven't carved a ball & claw foot for some time, I thought I had have a practice on some oak. Also, the ball & claw foot I'm hoping to achieve isn't the conventional type - as some of you may have noticed by the workshop drawing. This is also when I noticed an error today :?

I glued up a couple of oak off cuts the other day to use as a trial run piece before I started the actual work.
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Out of clamps...
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And cleaned up to 88mm square.
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Here, I sketched another foot very similar to the the job, only scaled to suit the trial run piece of wood. And this is when I noticed the error... I didn't include a top knuckle in the left & right toe.
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I amended it here, and this is what I'm hoping the front will look like... roughly.
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I cut the template and marked it onto the work piece.
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I then made my first cut... NIce cup of tea :D
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Then, I taped the off cuts back to their original place so I could make my second cut...
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Ready to go... Band saw was great - very pleased.
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And here's the part leg and foot ready to mark up for carving... Side.
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Side.
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Front.
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Rear.
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I'm now hoping to make a start on carving this trial runner tomorrow late afternoon. I'm away Friday and back Sunday - a 70's fancy dress bash in Wales! :D

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Re: Maple Office Suite

Postby paulchapman » Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:42 pm

Looking good. Thanks for taking the trouble to post up the pics.

Cheers ;)

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Postby Roger-M » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:35 am

Great thread. Really enjoying this and learning from it. Please keep it up.
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Postby tusses » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:36 pm

:) superb !

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Postby Pinch » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:54 am

paulchapman wrote:Looking good. Thanks for taking the trouble to post up the pics.

Cheers ;)

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Thanks Paul - I'm enjoying it 8-)

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Postby Pinch » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:55 am

Roger-M wrote:Great thread. Really enjoying this and learning from it. Please keep it up.


Thanks Roger, glad you're picking up tips from this thread - always a good sign 8-)

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Postby Pinch » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:55 am

tusses wrote::) superb !


Thanks Rich 8-)

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Postby Pinch » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:55 am

I had a quick go last night on the trial runner and although I quite like the proportions of the foot, I'm not 100% happy with it. A couple of pictures below show the work roughed out with chisels & spokeshaves - I haven't tidied it up yet. It needs a lot of fine tuning/detail and the toes/talons possibly need reducing in size.

I'm leaving it until I return form the Welsh 70's bash and see how it looks on Monday morning. I might even go with the more classical design as I don't think this design is very elegant and 'elegant' is the theme.

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We're off to Wales now :lol:

Cheers... 8-)

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Postby woodsmith » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:23 am

Fantastic work but I agree it looks a bit more Gothic than elegant.
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Postby Pinch » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:33 pm

Thanks Keith, I agree, it does look Gothic - not good. I'm going to amend this when I get the chance and before I start the maple.

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Postby George Fisher » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:00 pm

Could it be ball and claw feet are inherently gothic. Cabriole legs are more elegant I reckon, but depends if the customer if stuck on the idea of b&c.

Maybe thinner claws with less pronounced knuckles?

Interesting WIP non the less.
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Postby Pinch » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:57 pm

Cheers George.

I might be wrong, but I think the ball and claw foot originates from the Chinese and was meant to represent a dragon's foot clasping a crystal ball. The cabriole leg will be elegant (I have no worries with this), but I wanted to explore with the b&c before I attack the maple. I want to avoid the more classical design because this is fairly common. I think you're right with the knuckles and claws - they need to be thinner which should give a more elegant appearance. I'll start tidying this trial runner up sometime this week and the end result will be mighty fine. 8-)

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Postby mcluma » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:31 am

Still a mighty nice achievement

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Postby cerdeira » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:36 am

My opinion doesn't worth much, but I would take a more stylised approach to the ball & claw.
Probably would use the same motif you have on the top of the legs (kind of a shell viewed from top) instead of a realistic claw.


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