barn into a workshop

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:21 pm

I am in the process of converting one of our barns into a workshop, I will post pics if anyone is interested.

I started today by the way.

mattty · Post by **mattty** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:23 pm

Yes please. I love to see others work and workshops.

jonnyd · Post by **jonnyd** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:31 pm

pics please.

cheers

jon

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:48 pm

Ok matty and jon.
Here is one of three sides.

Here is the floor.

The inside looking up. as you can probably see if you look real careful, you can see were my father has tried to stop leaks with the subtle use of fertiliser bags.

So we started on the roof today.

Believe it or not there was hardly any rot, hasn't been touched in 25 years. Will post more when more to report.

jonnyd · Post by **jonnyd** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:03 pm

looks like it will be a nice workshop. how big is it?

cheers

jon

senior · Post by **senior** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:05 pm

That looks very similar to the house I used to share with some friends when I was 18!!!!!

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:20 pm

jonnyd wrote:looks like it will be a nice workshop. how big is it?

cheers

jon

The bit you can see is one of five rooms and that is 18x18ft, the others are 18x14ft, 14x8ft, 9x8ft, and 9x8ft. Odd sized I know but we cant take out any walls. I will do a sketch to show room layout.

mattty · Post by **mattty** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:21 pm

Lovely looking building mate. I really like the arched window.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:33 pm

Yeah their nice or will be when replaced with some new oak ones

theres 3 to do.

mrgrimsdale · Post by **mrgrimsdale** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:56 pm

mtr1 wrote:Yeah their nice or will be when replaced with some new oak ones theres 3 to do.

I'd keep them. They look original and very classy. Not much light though - skylights?

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:10 pm

circ1638 doubt they originals, Can't keep em their f**ked, thats the best one, I will be doing a like for like replacement though. skylights I haven't decided yet but if I do they will be going on northside

mattty · Post by **mattty** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:20 pm

Is that Liam Gallagher on the roof?

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:37 pm

Yes, now their music's gone to sh*t he asked me for a day labouring

It's my bruv

mattty · Post by **mattty** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:41 pm

Ahh nice one Noel..

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:52 pm

Here is the 18x14ft room that is currently my workshop.

Bit messy at the mo.

Post by **jfc** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:53 pm

If you can see the floor its tidy

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:11 am

jfc wrote:If you can see the floor its tidy

All to true

Been messing about with sketchup tonight, here's a rough idea of the rooms and locations.

The one on the right is my workshop, and the one on the left is where we are doing the roof. The other three are the smaller odd size rooms, I wish I could knock all into one.

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Post by **jfc** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:23 am

If i had that space i would use two as machine rooms and partition one of as the work bench / build area and leave the other one as a finishing room . Walls are great at keeping the dust down .

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:38 am

I was thinking of making one of the smaller front rooms into a finishing room, problem is I can't punch a hole through the flint walls for an extractor. So I guess it will be the one at the back of my workshop, with stud wall separating the two machine/assembling rooms and extrac out of window?

engineerone · Post by **engineerone** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:35 am

why not consider putting a chimney in a roof??? or through the eaves?
or if it is a finishing room, why not use the door to hold the tubing??

looks an interesting project good luck

paul

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:32 am

Paul do you mean mount the fan to the back of the door? Would that be feasible? There's no chimmey and wont be one built

There aren't any eve's as such, tiles will be bedded down white cement.

mrgrimsdale · Post by **mrgrimsdale** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:45 am

mtr1 wrote:I was thinking of making one of the smaller front rooms into a finishing room, problem is I can't punch a hole through the flint walls for an extractor. So I guess it will be the one at the back of my workshop, with stud wall separating the two machine/assembling rooms and extrac out of window?

You can duct an extractor as far as you like. Straighter the run, larger the diameter, the better.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:14 pm

I think I'm going to sort roof and floor first then think about layout. The roof will take a while as can only do weekends and the odd day weather permitting.

engineerone · Post by **engineerone** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:47 pm

hi mate, couple of extensions to my suggestion.
you could for instance build a door between the finishing room and elsewhere with a cut out in the hinge side of the door at the top, and through this you could feed an extractor pipe to an external item. a lot depends on the air you are hoping to move through it.

as for the roof, are you sure you cannot put a small pipe through it to act as an extractor chimney? i understand the other restrictions, but a short chimney?

paul

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:30 am

ok here's the front of workshop

just got this felted and battoned before the rain this morning.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:33 pm

Here is one of the 9x8ft rooms used currently as junk room, this is where I would like spray shop should be big enough?

And looking up, this is the other end of truss shown in the re-roofed part.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Started on the front of the workshop today,(will post pics tomorrow) major leaks in the roof. Consequently purlin rotted + 7 rafters, also wall plate in a 8ft section f**ked. Will be doing replacements hopefully thurs or will be over xmas as work is a bit hectic at the mo.

Post by **promhandicam** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:11 pm

looks like Jacob has been visiting - judging by the scythes hanging from the rafters

Why do jobs always turn out bigger than you first thought? Should be good when it is done though.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:22 pm

Ok got some tiles on this morning.

Heres the state of the front half.

All the rotten timber out, we started to replace with new. starting with the wallplate.

To get the plate in, we had to halflap the left end, and taper the tenon on the other. Then we whacked the halflapped end with a sledghammer.

Once in, we then sawed the shoulder in.

As you can see the truss is quite rotted on the end, but we are building a pier underneath to support it plus treating.

It looks worse than it is, and would mean taking the whole thing out to replace. Not financially viable sadly. Once supported and treated it will be fine.

Thanks for looking.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:39 pm

Sometimes you've just got to roll with it.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:10 pm

Got the rafters & jack rafters replaced today.

Got it felted and battoned as well.
Found out today that the roof was last done 196 years ago

dad has the invoice from the original roofing contractor, you can't see how much it cost but the guys name was joseph flowerday. There are still some flowerdays in the village, and one of them is a carpenter who I drink with.

sainty · Post by **sainty** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:29 pm

is he over 200 yrs old?

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:48 pm

He is knocking on a bit(78) lovely old feller though, he's gonna help me with some sash box's

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:12 am

Looks like you`ve got your work cut out for you Mark,

Do you have a date you`d like to be finished by?

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:40 am

Christmas

not saying which one though

. On a serious note I will get it done as quick as poss, theres not a time limit on how long I have to get it done though. Once the roof is done that just leaves the floors, electrics, plumbing, extracting, etc...etc
Will post pics of all stages.

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:51 pm

Can't do anything on the roof, so I thought I'd start to think about layout, suggestions welcome.

sainty · Post by **sainty** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:45 pm

if it was me, i'd probably have some doors.

How about extraction in your main shop? The other thing that seems to be missing is any kind of storage.

Apart from that it looks good. I like the idea of having seperate areas for machining and assembly. Might be worth moving some of the other machines into the machine shop?

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:39 am

sainty wrote:if it was me, i'd probably have some doors.

How about extraction in your main shop? The other thing that seems to be missing is any kind of storage.

Apart from that it looks good. I like the idea of having seperate areas for machining and assembly. Might be worth moving some of the other machines into the machine shop?

There are 5.
Storage is not a problem, I have another barn. As for extraction there is one small one at the moment in the machine room that I will upgrade when money allows. I would like to have all the machines in the machine shop, might try to squeeze the spindle in there aswell if space allows. I quite like having a bandsaw near my bench so will keep that in the assembly room. But any others I can fit in the machine room will be going in there, would like to get some sort of downdraft table in there to. Thanks for the ideas stu, keep em coming.

nickw · Post by **nickw** » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:00 am

There doesn't seem to be a lot of room left to actually build stuff in. Are you a box maker?

mtr1 · Post by **mtr1** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:57 am

nickw wrote:There doesn't seem to be a lot of room left to actually build stuff in. Are you a box maker?

I kind of agree with you there, I am trying to do the best I can with the space I have bud. I'm giving it a shot, I do however understand that with the space I have it will not be suitable for the work I hope to do in the future ie: kitchens. But it is rent free, and I hope it will give me start for a while at least. I think it is quite hard to have all the machine's that you know will make you a few bob in the limited space I have. As for making box's, I have been known to make the odd one or two.