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Fitted Dresser

Postby simuk » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:36 pm

This is recent render I done for a client. Modelled with sketchup, rendered with vray


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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby woodsmith » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:50 pm

It looks like the real thing to me, very impressed.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby promhandicam » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:59 pm

Very good mate. How long did that take to do?
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby tusses » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:05 pm

I do find some of these renderings like this, just amazing !

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby MrYorke » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:32 pm

For a second I thought that should be in projects as I thought it was the real thing.

So anyway, back to your question. Personally, I'd have a back panel in white to finish it off nicely unless the customer specifically asks for it to be left open.

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby chippy1970 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:23 am

Very realistic, as above I would put a white back in see how that looks.

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby mark270981 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:36 am

Excellent rendering

I have tried to do it but I'm not very good.

I'm more of a fan of full heigh alcove units
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby karl » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:16 am

That looks bloody great.

I've been trying to get to grips with Sketchup, but to date i've really struggled. One of the links posted by Bloonose has really helped - the SU for woodworkers linky.

How long did it take you to generate that image? And how easy would it be to modify if the customer wanted it, say, a bit shorter, or a drawer in the bottom section with 2 x doors?

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby lynx » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:08 am

Looks good but I don't like the camera angle. I would have moved to the right or left slightly so your not straight onto the right hand end panel.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby mailee » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:29 pm

Brilliant! I have got a pretty good grasp of Sketchup but have no idea where to start with rendering. That really does look like a photo. :D

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby sainty » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:39 pm

That's excellent. I can see that I'm going to have to learn this rendering lark.

As excellent as it is, do you think its worth the time and effort involved? How much are you chances of getting this job improved by this image? I'm not knocking what you've done at all, I'm just wondering at what level of job it becomes worthwhile?

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Postby woodsmith » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:41 pm

sainty wrote:That's excellent. I can see that I'm going to have to learn this rendering lark.

As excellent as it is, do you think its worth the time and effort involved? How much are you chances of getting this job improved by this image? I'm not knocking what you've done at all, I'm just wondering at what level of job it becomes worthwhile?


I suppose it depends how long it takes.

Simon how long do you think it took you to draw this and then how long to render it?
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby promhandicam » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:41 pm

Another quick question - have you bought a license for V-ray or are you using the demo version? £600 for the full standard version is a bit spendy for me.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby simuk » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:33 pm

Thanks for all the comments

promhandicam wrote:Very good mate. How long did that take to do?
It took me around around 15 hours to draw the model, and then 150 hours learning how to use vray to texture it.

It would have taken a lot longer if i hadnt had help from Dave Richards & co at http://sketchucation.com/forums/


karl wrote:That looks bloody great.


How long did it take you to generate that image? And how easy would it be to modify if the customer wanted it, say, a bit shorter, or a drawer in the bottom section with 2 x doors?


Rendering the image took my computer 2 hours. It would be easy to adjust as it is made up of groups & components.

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Postby tusses » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:41 pm

simuk wrote:Thanks for all the comments

promhandicam wrote:Very good mate. How long did that take to do?
It took me around around 15 hours to draw the model, and then 150 hours learning how to use vray to texture it.

It would have taken a lot longer if i hadnt had help from Dave Richards & co at http://sketchucation.com/forums/


karl wrote:That looks bloody great.


How long did it take you to generate that image? And how easy would it be to modify if the customer wanted it, say, a bit shorter, or a drawer in the bottom section with 2 x doors?


Rendering the image took my computer 2 hours. It would be easy to adjust as it is made up of groups & components.


so financially, those are unrealistic time scales.
once you get it leaned, How long do you thing you could do it as an image fore a quote for an every day job ?

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby lynx » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:31 pm

15 hours to draw. sorry mate but I hope your learning as that is a bloody long time for that.


even still, I wouldn't offer a visual for an alcove unit. Contract value of £10k plus may require but then it's going to cost a lot.


That said. Nearly every large job we have quoted for, and supplied visuals, we have won. Nearly always the most expensive but the addition of the visual aided the presentation and won us the job.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby simuk » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:34 pm

promhandicam wrote:Another quick question - have you bought a license for V-ray or are you using the demo version? £600 for the full standard version is a bit spendy for me.


http://www.vray.com/free_vray_demo/

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simuk wrote:Thanks for all the comments

promhandicam wrote:Very good mate. How long did that take to do?
It took me around around 15 hours to draw the model, and then 150 hours learning how to use vray to texture it.

It would have taken a lot longer if i hadnt had help from Dave Richards & co at http://sketchucation.com/forums/


karl wrote:That looks bloody great.


How long did it take you to generate that image? And how easy would it be to modify if the customer wanted it, say, a bit shorter, or a drawer in the bottom section with 2 x doors?


Rendering the image took my computer 2 hours. It would be easy to adjust as it is made up of groups & components.


so financially, those are unrealistic time scales.
once you get it leaned, How long do you thing you could do it as an image fore a quote for an every day job ?


Depends on the project, but not that long as I have everything in place now to carry out a quick project such as , Texture map library's, HDRI library's, visopt settings, Interior & exterior scene templates, , 2 computers one for rendering the other for modelling.

I have completed several drawings for clients in an 1 evening

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby simuk » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:37 pm

lynx wrote:15 hours to draw. sorry mate but I hope your learning as that is a bloody long time for that.


even still, I wouldn't offer a visual for an alcove unit. Contract value of £10k plus may require but then it's going to cost a lot.


That said. Nearly every large job we have quoted for, and supplied visuals, we have won. Nearly always the most expensive but the addition of the visual aided the presentation and won us the job.



Like I said I was learning with that one ;) Could you show me a render & tell me how long it took so I can see what I should be aiming for

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby lynx » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:51 pm




around 8 hours to model and map plus around 2 to render @4961x3508 pixels
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby simuk » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:01 pm

Stunning! the reflections & shadows give it that realism. How long did it take you to get to that level?

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby jfc » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:14 am

I love the stuff you can do with these tools but it just seems like loads of time to me .

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby daver » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:59 am

Nice work, Simon. I didn't know you were the Simon I was helping on SCF. ;)

Lynx, that's a nice office render, too. Is the woodgrain that repetitive in reality?

Regarding the time involved, not all of them have to take a lot of time. It depends upon the complexity of the model and what you want out of the render. Smaller renders will take less time to complete. Fewer reflections will also reduce render time. Rendering can be mostly done unattended so once it is started you can go do something else.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby jfc » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:51 am

Hi Dave .
I guess its the time it takes when starting out that puts most people off . I find myself thinking i could have made the bloody thing by now :lol:
I may dip my toe in again though as the results are really fantastic .

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby daver » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:48 am

I guess I've hijacked Simon's thread a little. My apologies, Simon. I'll start a new thread to continue my thought.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby hammertime » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:00 pm

I struggled to tell it was a drawing and not the real thing to start with :lol: nice work 8-)

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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby thatsnotafestool » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:59 pm

daver wrote:I guess I've hijacked Simon's thread a little. My apologies, Simon. I'll start a new thread to continue my thought.


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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby mark270981 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:50 pm

Hi Dave

Glad to see you posting over here, your expertise will come in very handy.
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Re: Fitted Dresser

Postby simuk » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:37 pm

daver wrote:Nice work, Simon. I didn't know you were the Simon I was helping on SCF. ;)


Hello Dave small world is it not :)


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